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OpenShot Video Editor continues to gain popularity, even though we haven't released an "official" version yet. We just recently exceeded 10,000 downloads of our new .DEB installers!!! I think the message is loud and clear. People want a video editor that actually works on Linux!
I wanted to share a chart of our download stats with everyone. I thought you might find it interesting how our downloads break-down between the various versions of Ubuntu, and between 32 & 64 bit CPU architectures. As you can see, Ubuntu 9.04 is easily the most popular target for OpenShot.
[Click to enlarge the graph]
As a "thank you" to all the supporters, I have updated the main installer file (openshot.deb) from version 0.9.22 to 0.9.34. There are a ton of bug fixes, and the project has been re-factored a bit to simplify packaging. Also, we have moved some of our "writable" files to an ".openshot" folder in the home directory.
There are a few new features hidden in this version which I will be blogging about over the next few days (as I find time). Also, I have some big news on the PPA front, but you will have to wait for that news as well. =)
Thanks for the strong support everyone! Please keep spreading the word about OpenShot, and we'll keep developing new features. Deal?
September 22, 2009 3:21 AM
Awesome Awesome Awesome
September 22, 2009 4:34 AM
"I think the message is loud and clear. People want a video editor that actually works on Linux!"
Yeah.. and many many MANY more people want one that works on Windows... but I guess that's our silly fault for not running Ubuntu?
Just saying... if you want a HUGE number of users, go for the more widely used Op. System - regardless of the rights and wrongs of Open/Closed Source and Big Bad MS - if you want to help people and have millions of users you'll ignore all that and assist the bigger audience too! :)
September 22, 2009 4:51 AM
Please, note that some users, like me, have dowload the UBUNTU package to install it over DEBIAN. ;)
Great Work! and a lot of Thanks!
September 22, 2009 9:42 AM
@Anomynoous (the 3eme)
And it's works , well ?
What's your distribution etch,lenny , ... and is it a 32 or 64 bits ?
@Jonathan
more 10000 downloads ! ANd it's a beta !!!! Imagine when it will be finished.
Cenwen/Olivier
September 22, 2009 1:42 PM
Hello Anonymous 2,
There is a very good video editing suite which does work on Windows. This is the Avid Professional Video Editing Suite:
http://www.avid.com/products/professional-film-video.asp
Unfortunately up-to-date MS Windows only caters for a very small section of the world community who can afford the latest computers and the cost of MS Windows and such software as Avid.
We do want to assist millions of users around the worls, and so we develop OpenShot to work on the most easily available and useable operating system which can be used on many times more computers than the latest Windows can, and without enormous cost to the users.
Keeping to Open Source operating systems is the only way to ensure accessability and choice for the maximum number of people in the world. And this then empowers the maximum number of people in the world without requiring them to have major economic resources.
The minority of people in the world who have the economic resources to be able to afford a modern Windows computer, have the choice of using that if they want, or to use OpenSource software. So developing OpenShot as a Linux Video Editor is not denying it to anyone.
I hope that answers your question.
Best wishes, Helen
September 22, 2009 2:40 PM
@Helen
That is a great explanation Helen. I 100% agree with you.
With that being said, there is work being done to support OSX by the MLT project.
And... OpenShot is a Python/GTK app that will work on Windows, Mac, and Linux. However, we have dependencies that don't compile for Windows.
So, I imagine that MLT could be modified to compile on Windows also... which would then enable OpenShot to work on Windows... But for that to happen, the MLT project would need a contributor that would be willing to tackle that.
September 23, 2009 12:00 AM
Just a thought.
If the GUI part of OSV works right of in windows, maybe it might be easier to make up a mlt/xml-code parser as a plugin(c++) for Avisynth, than actually do a port MLT?
I think that Avisynth supports the same functions as MLT.
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page
September 23, 2009 2:10 AM
JT "With that being said, there is work being done to support OSX by the MLT project."
Yes and a version osx from kdenlive is running now ...
September 23, 2009 4:52 AM
Helen thanks for your reply and I'm sure that makes perfect sense to you, but the fact remains that the vast majority of PCs run Windows.
A statistics site will confirm that.
I know you Open Source-erers (and Mac users) love to evangelise and you're delighted with the whole movement, fine, I accept that, but surely you have to accept that you're HUGELY outnumbered by Win-'doze' users who would probably jump at the chance of running OpenShot.
Thanks for the techy explanation Jonathan, I hope that when and if it becomes possible, that you do bolt it together for us!
Thanks
September 23, 2009 8:26 AM
Thank you for your contribution on making Linux better. As is the future were everything is going to be free and there be no monopolies that are trying to keep us lock. Support local stores please think green. Our future children depends on taking down all monopolies and useless laws that only benefit the rich.Love and equality for all.
September 23, 2009 12:17 PM
Anonymous 2, I honestly believe porting OpenShot to Windows is a waste of time. Everyone who complains about the lack of a decent video editor for Linux mentions the existence of Movie Maker and Adobe Premiere for Windows. OpenShot is filling a gap that exists in Linux but does not exist in Windows.
September 23, 2009 3:43 PM
except for the fact that there's nothing free on Windows that can touch OpenShot, by the looks of it!
Adobe's costs $$££$$, Windows MM is extremely limited, there are one or two other freebies but again, a bit limited.
September 23, 2009 5:23 PM
@Anonymous 2
The "statistics" you links to are for one obscure website (called w3schools.com) out of millions. The visitors would almost certainly almost all come from one of the richest nations on Earth (USA).
If you were to look at a Microsoft website you might find an even greater predominance of Windows using visitors.
If you then examine the history leading to the development of modern Widnows implementaions such as Vista and XP you will discover that one of the driving forces behind the very restrictive practices used in those OSes was the prevention of copying of Windows in China, India and Latin America - a major portion of the world. This lead to national campaigns in those countries to empower their people by the promotion of FOSS operating systems such as Linux. In India it led directly to the projects to include all of the many Indian languages.
It is therefore highly likely that Linux is used by very many more people than modern Windows OSes.
Certainly Linux long ago outstripped Microsoft in the Internet server market. Microsoft is a very minor player in the Internet server world.
If you want to present accurate statistics on relative useage of different operating systems, you would need to do some intensive sampling in China, India and Latin America so that you have sampled a significant proportion of the world's population.
You should also not try using web server statistics because a lot of Linux and Unix systems will mimic a windows system when web browsing to avoid the problems with some web sites complaining they cannot recognise the Operating System.
If you want OpenShot that much on Windows you will receive much positive encouragement from the whole OpenSource community (including me) if you will undertake the porting of the dependencies to Windows. Those of us in the OpenSource community are fully in support of spreading OpenSource software to all platforms, and will applaude your efforts in doing the hard work of porting to Windows.
Wishing you the best of luck in your endeavours to port these dependencies to Windows.
Helen
September 23, 2009 5:47 PM
OpenSource developers should know that creating software for platforms that do not follow the OpenSource philosophy helps these companies to get a better OS with more applications. Somehow you are helping these companies increase their profits out of which OpenSource developer don't sees a dime.
"Buy Windows, can run OpenShot too"
Do you think Microsoft will give part of the money that helped you get?
Open your eyes OpenSource developers!
September 23, 2009 5:48 PM
A Postscript for Anonymous 2
I have had a close look at the website you linked to.
All of the statistics pages give a clear warning that the statistics can be very misleading.
If you look at the disposition of Browsers used over the period since 2002 when they started logging, you will find that Microsoft has gone down very fast from being the predominant visiting browser in 2002 to being in a minority now in 2009.
The difference has been made up by Linux based OpenSource browsers which are still increasing at an ever higher rate.
Even just looking at the figures for the least common of the visiting linux browsers, konquerer, you can see that the supposed "OS reporting" is as misleading as I suggested in my former posting.
A careful investigation of that site you linked to, suggests rather strongly that Microsoft is on a very fast downturn, and that OpenSource has already outstripped microsoft now in the desktop market. :-)
Helen
September 23, 2009 5:57 PM
Hello TD,
I am no fan of microsoft or its products, or its commercial techniques aimed at "lock in".
However I have to state here that Bill Gates has given a significant proportion of his vast income to community projects around the world, including a major focus on India with projects which AFAIK include those which have been building up the Indian multilingual support in Open Source software.
It should not matter to anyone who supports the ethics of Open Source that Microsoft might not channel some of its profits into our projects. We are not asking Microsoft to do so. :-)
Helen
September 24, 2009 4:34 AM
All good points, but don't forget that Windows is heavily pirated too :)
Just because it costs $$$ doesn't mean there aren't millions of people using it for nothing!
September 24, 2009 12:34 PM
@Anonymous, If you're a Windows user, I guess you're not interested much in use OpenSource software. Why are you so interested that an OpenSource project be ported to not OpenSource OS? Already exist many nonlinear editors for Windows, payments and free. They are not OpenSource but again, if you use Windows I think you don't care about this. In any case if they are aware that Windows is highly pirated and you accept this, you get pirated copies of NLE for Windows too. Piracy in Windows is no problem attaching to the Linux and OpenSource world.
I insist, Windows is not a platform that favors the OpenSource and is a waste of time for OpenSource developers try to make their projects works on these operating systems.
Bye.
September 25, 2009 3:52 AM
TD and all
I do understand your point but I can see both sides of the argument from up here on the fence :)
All I'm saying is, if you're getting excited about the number of users (i.e. Over 10,000 Downloads Served!!!) then you'd get a whole lot more admirers from serving the larger market.
All the best
September 25, 2009 12:45 PM
Hello again Anonymous 2
I have been amusing myself looking for further evidence to refute your claim that there are more windows users than linux users.
I looked at a number of public blog sites, because blogging seems to be one of the most common www activities these days.
I looked at a selection of women's blogs, and found a surprising statistic.
On the blogs I visited and examined the various comments supplied by other visitors, I found that 90% approx of the commenting vistors were using Linux of various distributions, and the remaining 10% were using Mac OSX.
The majority of the comments were coming from women.
I found no identifiable instances of comments coming from windows users.
Helen
September 26, 2009 7:13 AM
are you seriously going to argue with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
???
That's what I call dedication to the movement, LOL
September 26, 2009 7:41 AM
Hello Anonymous 2
Speaking as an established memeber of Wikipedia; no I am not arguing with the wikipedia page you link to.
That wikipedia page supports the comments I have been making on this blog. :-)
That page goes much further than I have in explaining the reasons for these over-inflated figures for Microsoft IE.
You need to make a much better study of the first part of that wikipedia article where it discusses "Accuracy" ;-)
Helen
September 26, 2009 10:18 AM
LOL, touché...
ok I give up that argument - while still knowing loads of Windows users and only 1 Linux one :)
September 27, 2009 6:39 AM
I love open shot, it is like kdenlive done right...it doesn't crash every 10 seconds and keeps it simple.
I would be happy to recommend it to others even total newbies.
All it lacks now is a huge number of effects and filters and you have a winner.
September 28, 2009 2:21 AM
".it doesn't crash every 10 seconds and keeps it simple."
what happen ? on my 2 computers i'am able to work 3 hours without crash ? (ubuntu and compiled with builder wizard)
September 29, 2009 1:02 PM
What does PPA mean?
September 29, 2009 2:15 PM
Hello people,
I've downloaded Open Shot but i'm having some problem with it. I'm using Ubuntu 9.04. When I start editing, some clips of my project becomes a blank screen, and I can't cut or modify it. Is this a bug that you know? Are you working on fixing it?
Thanks
Paulo - Brazil
September 29, 2009 2:28 PM
Hello Elijah
PPA stands for
Personal Package Archive
This is an archive formated to correspond to the structure of the Debian/Ubuntu/Mint etc official archives.
This means that "3rd party" software can be placed in PPAs to allow installing by means of Apt or Synaptic.
These PPAs are typically used for packages which are being developed prior to being officially accepted within a distribution such as Ubuntu, Mint, or Debian - This is the case with OpenShot.
Another typical use of PPAs is to make new versions of packages available as "back ports" so that users don't have to wait for the next upgrade of their distro before having access to more recent versions of software. This is the case with the dependencies for OpenShot which need to be the "bleeding edge" versions for OpenShot to work.
The other main use of PPAs is to make packages available which cannot be included in the official distributions. This is usually because, like with deCSS, the software is legal to use in most countries, but either not legal or doubtful leagality in a few countries. The most used PPA for such packages is Medibuntu.
I hope this answers your question,
Helen
September 29, 2009 2:33 PM
Hello Paulo,
Yes this is a bug which we have been working on. Bug #403154
It appears to be connected with a problem with the audio stream within ffmpeg.
This problem will be solved soon we hope.
Best wishes, Helen
September 29, 2009 3:49 PM
Hi Hellen,
Thanks a bunch for explaining that. It will take me a bit longer to digest but I appreciate you taking the time to write that up.
This is the final piece of the puzzle that needs to be developed for Linux in my eyes. We have Blender, Gimp, Inkscape, Ubuntu, Audacity and so many more but just like the creator of OpenShot said, the wekest point is video and this is what has kept me from jumping in head first.
If this continues to go as it currently is I will invest a significant amount of time and money into this project to help it succeed.
One thing I am trying to figure out is if I can get Ubuntu working fully on a w700ds thinkpad.
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087¤t-category-id=F10AD59D781A47888400957242FCF7F8
September 29, 2009 5:48 PM
Hello again Elijah,
I had a look at the basic specs for the w700ds thinkpad
I can see no reason why Ubuntu shouldn't work on this laptop.
What you will find though is that installations for full useage will not be as simple as for other laptops.
When you first install Ubuntu on it you should find it will initially only work on one screen, and at a resolution of 1050x768
Try the Ubuntu Live CD on it. You might find the Live CD will not boot properly. If so the "Alternate" install CD should install on the thinkpad.
Once you have the system working on one screen at 1050x768 you will need to go to the menu item:
System->Administration->Hardware_Drivers
And the dialogue which comes up should give you the option of installing and setting up the
NVIDIA Quadro FX drivers you will need to get the resolution up to 1920x1200
When you do this at first avoid the temptation to enable the 3D acceleration features in Gnome if you want to be able to work on getting the second screen working without bizarre problems cropping up.
To get the second screen working I can only give some hints as to where to look - search on google or ubuntu for howtos on second screens on laptops (looking at the specs I suspect that this will be the same sort of configuration as for an external second screen)
Once you have the second screen working, it will be safe to try enabling what 3D effects you want to use.
One caveat: Using second screens on any computer can cause problems with getting some features working fully - and that goes for any operating system including Windows, Linux, BSD etc - even the fabled Mac Pro range are not without problems with their own OSX working fully with second or third screens.
Best wishes, Helen
PS: If you want any more help go to my blog
http://helen-mccall.blogspot.com/
And contact me via my Profile page listed at the right of the page.
This will prevent filling up poor Jonathan's own blog with unrelated items ;-)
September 29, 2009 6:01 PM
Thanks Helen! I am considering purchasing this laptop so I can't try that stuff out yet.
I guess I am wondering if the color calibration software and wacom tablet will work fully but yes, this is derailing the conversation of this post. I left a comment on your blog and will talk to you more in the future!
I am going to throw $15 in the pot for OpenShot even though I have never downloaded it nor tried it out yet. :)
Cheers!
October 5, 2009 10:03 PM
Ok Helen,
We'll be waiting for the bug fix. Thanks for the sincerity, Paulo