,
After many long nights, and many frustrating days of work, I am proud to announce a set of 25 Debian Installers, spread out across 6 Ubuntu distributions! Why 25 installers you ask? Well, let me break it down for everyone:
OpenShot is just a Python program, so we just need 1 installer for that. Check.
x264, Frie0r, FFmpeg, and MLT. That's 4 more. Check.
Now, since these "dependency" packages are not Python, we need to be sure and build these 4 packages against the following versions of Ubuntu:
- 32 Bit - Ubuntu 8.04
- 32 Bit - Ubuntu 8.10
- 32 Bit - Ubuntu 9.04
------------------------- - 64 Bit - Ubuntu 8.04
- 64 Bit - Ubuntu 8.10
- 64 Bit - Ubuntu 9.04
I have created an archive for each set of dependencies, and added them to the official download page. After you get everything installed, you will only need to update the main OpenShot.deb file as I release new versions. In other words, you only have to install the dependencies one time. Also, just to be clear, OpenShot is still very much in development, and is changing rapidly. This is not an official release... just an easier-to-install developer snapshot.
Soon I will be adding the completed language translations to the download page as well. These will be .deb installers as well. Please be patient with the translations, as it might take a few days to get these setup and uploaded. =)
I'm going to come right out and say it. I am not an expert Debian package creator, and I'm sure there are better ways to create these .deb files. If you happen to be an expert in this area, please join our LaunchPad team and help us improve our packaging. =) Thanks.
Enjoy the .DEB files everyone!
August 18, 2009 1:43 PM
Move fast ;)
August 18, 2009 2:51 PM
I have installed the packages in Kubuntu 9.04 64bits and everything seems to work correctly.
Thanks!!!
August 18, 2009 5:12 PM
ArchLinux users can now install OpenShot from AUR!
Keep up the good work!
August 19, 2009 2:09 AM
Lovely man!
August 19, 2009 3:11 AM
Hi,
I just tried OpenShot for the first time and I really like it. It is amazing what has been done in such short time. My compliments.
I know that this is development release but I have a propositions for further ones (if this is not the place for such notes please tel me where to put them).
- I miss undo and redo function.
- I know that goal is to have stable video editor but no application is perfect and it is always nice to have function that rebuilds project if application crashes (like Cinelerra, OpenOffice,...).
Thank you.
August 19, 2009 4:22 AM
I'm a regular on the dpreview forums where people are discovering the joys of movie clips from the latest generation of stills cameras. These tend to be MJPEG, some variant of h264 or AVCHD Lite and there's nothing free and excellent in Windowsland for editing this type of video.
I look forward to the day when Ubuntu comes with OpenShot ready (or easily) installed so that I can recommend this way of achieving what we need.
At the current rate of progress it shouldn't be too far away! Bravo Sir!!
August 19, 2009 10:38 PM
Spent the past 6 hours crashing blender, cinelerra. kdenlive, and various other programs trying to make a simple 15 second video with sound over it. Then I stumbled upon your software the day after you posted .deb packages, downloaded and installed them in 5 mins, and had the video made 5 min after that.
Thank You for making my life easier!
August 20, 2009 1:54 AM
WOOOOOOT!
Gonna install it now!
August 20, 2009 10:00 AM
Thanks for the great feedback everyone!
@zorancek
The best way to send me feature requests is by clicking on the "Support" button at the top of this website, and submitting a bug. LaunchPad considers wishlist items as bugs for some reason. Anyway, that way you can track the progress of your wishlist items. =)
@Impressed
I'm glad you are impressed, Mr. Impressed. By the way, are you easily impressed? Seriously though, my goal is to eventually be pre-packaged with Ubuntu. That would be awesome!
@Rooney Tunes
I love the name. Your story is exactly what drove me to create OpenShot. I'm glad you were able to make your video.
August 20, 2009 11:17 AM
well, if you think that would be awesome, why wouldn't I be impressed?
:)
August 21, 2009 3:03 AM
Nice job, should I uninstall (and how??) the version installed by the wizard before installing the .deb package?
August 21, 2009 10:24 AM
@Anonymous, you don't' have to uninstall the stuff from the build wizard, unless you want to. Unfortunately, there is not an easy way to uninstall all the packages from the build wizard. =(
August 21, 2009 11:33 AM
I just want to say that you did a great job.
I tried it now for the first time now, I think this is very good, of course it's still an early stage and there's a long way,.. but,.. for the first time in Linux video editing, something featured, with a fresh modern look, almost non buggy, and the best of all flexible...
Thanks to the SVG strategy, for montages I can do whatever I want over videos, it's just awesome.
Great Job,
Jota
August 21, 2009 11:55 AM
Hello Jota,
Those svg templates can be adapted to almost anything. With a bit of careful planning, and keeping each svg clip the same length you can get really good scrolling credits very easily.
If you then do a bit more careful planning you can do effects with scrolling credits that look like you did them in a good 3d editor like Blender.
Incidentally, if anyone wants to know more about me and what I do. visit my blog Ubuntu And The Art Of An Aerial Acrobat at
http://helen-mccall.blogspot.com/
Best wishes, Helen
August 21, 2009 11:48 PM
@Anonymous
Go into created folders by the wizard in your home directory (mlt, frei0r, ffmpeg), open a terminal in each of it and run with root privileges:
make uninstall
Then remove "openshot, mlt, frei0r, ffmpeg" folders from your home.
Reinstal ffmpeg package in your distro.
Install OpenShot deb's.
Bye.
August 22, 2009 5:25 AM
anyone knows what software was used for this screencast, in the first video?
August 22, 2009 5:40 AM
Hello Jota,
I think Jonathan used recordmydesktop
I have used it successfully. You need to configure recordmydesktop to not use a frame around the area recorded or else a bug in recordmydesktop means some drag and drop operations etc don't record properly.
Hope this helps
Helen
August 22, 2009 6:43 AM
@jota
Helen has reason, I confirme that Jonathan use Gtkrecordmydesktop for produce his videos in an encapsulation mp4.
You have just to use synaptic to install it or in command line, like you prefer.That's all.
August 22, 2009 11:17 AM
Hi,
I just tried Openshot also, but sadly it doesn't work that well on my computer. If I preview a clip the sound stutters and when I move the slider on the time-line the screen goes black (and stays black).
I have the 32 bits Ubuntu 9.04 debs installed.
Openshot looks promising though, so I will definitely keep following this blog...
August 22, 2009 4:47 PM
Update: I just tried it again but now I had Compiz disabled and the black screen problem is gone! The sound problem (stuttering) is still there though, but hey, I can at least do some video-editing now :)
August 23, 2009 2:45 AM
@Jay-M
Please use Launchpad to report a bug. It's more easy for us to manage them.
Thanks Cenwen/Olivier.
August 23, 2009 9:57 AM
videos done in my "recordmydesktop" get too "yellowsish" they don't represent the real image color... that's why I asked, knowing he also uses ubuntu, me Kubuntu.
got to get used to yellowish videos :)
thanks people
August 23, 2009 11:37 AM
Hello Jota,
You could try reporting these yellow videos as bugs on the recordmydesktop site. Though I have never encountered any colour caste at all being produced by that.
The only really practical advice I can give is for you to try washing down your monitor screen. But please unplug it first, and let it dry out completely before plugging it in again.
Best wishes, Helen
August 23, 2009 5:34 PM
thanks for your nice and inspirational advices Helen...
will try it for sure
August 24, 2009 1:27 AM
I would recommend you to have a text visible on top of this page with a description of Open Shot Video - which is the text you want people to use as a description when linking to O.S.V.E.
August 24, 2009 4:15 AM
I would suggest that the Features page should have a bit more detail to entice in people who are surfing around for an NLE to suit their needs. At the moment the Features Page doesn't even have a list of compatible file types for example. If you could list AVCHD or MJPEG then a lot of digicam owners would sit up and take notice, and explore the rest of the site a bit more keenly. Cheers
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August 24, 2009 11:25 AM
@Tin2tin,
I agree, the site could use a bit of work to make it more clear the purpose and description of OpenShot. It's still mainly a blog... with elements of a real website. If I could just find some time. =)
@Anonymous,
I have plans on improving the "Features" and "Screenshots" sections of the site soon. I would like the features section to be more like the Blender website, where each feature has a thumbnail image, description, and a small bulleted list.
August 24, 2009 5:47 PM
WOW I spent a long time searching a good video editor for Linux. And you progran is excelent. It wors ever with Compiz Fusion active and a ATI graphic card with its propietarie drivers o.O ¡Withuot a bug!
August 25, 2009 3:37 AM
Absolutely incredible!! But where we can get the sources?
August 25, 2009 3:45 AM
At least in Debian, there are debian oficial packages for all the dependencies:
* Frei0r: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/frei0r-plugins
* FFmpeg: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ffmpeg
* MLT: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libmlt1
* x264: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/package/x264.php (debianmultimedia.org non-free repository)
I hope that in Ubuntu there was be the same. So, why to make de dependencies deb package and not to relay in the official packages?
Anyway, many thanks for the important development !!.
August 25, 2009 4:39 AM
I think is the best easy control Video editor that i've seen since i'm on linux.
Thank you!
August 25, 2009 4:45 AM
I'm using kubuntu using a nx client and I had this error:
$ openshot
--------------------------------
OpenShot (version 0.9.22)
--------------------------------
[...]
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/share/openshot/main/westley.xml'
I fixed doing this:
$ sudo chmod 766 /usr/local/share/openshot/main/westley.xml
August 25, 2009 4:46 AM
One more thing,
GREAT JOB, THIS APPLICATION IT'S FANTASTIC!!!!
August 25, 2009 1:54 PM
25 installers. Wonderful.
Honest to God question. Why do people with undeniable talent like yours keep wasting their time in an insane, chaotic operating system such as Linux. Seriously, give it a thought, because for the life of me I don´t get it.
August 25, 2009 2:30 PM
Dear Anonymous
The reason for the special packages for the dependancies is because this is an alpha release for testing with the very latest versions of those dependancies.
Likewise the 25 packages you refer to are packages compiled for testing on a wide variety of systems. This is because the testing we are doing is very thorough.
I personally find it very difficult to understand the psyche of someone who trolls on blogs they apparently have no interest in.
Best wishes,
Helen
August 25, 2009 3:52 PM
Just installed the Dutch language pack, very nice thank you! And for a first translation-run it looks good, only a few minor bugs :)
@35: for me it´s all about freedom...
August 26, 2009 1:52 AM
Really, really, really, thank you!
August 26, 2009 5:45 AM
Hello,
how do you actually move clips from the bin down to the timeline? I guess other people are able to do it as they were able to actually edit video with it. But it doesn't work at all here.
I tried dragging. Doesn't work. Double clicking shows the clips in the viewer. Tried clicking F8-11 as I'm used to in Final Cut Pro, no avail. I can't figure it out...
Tried with my MJPEG files from D90, also tried a few DV-files.
Ah, a restart did the trick. There are glitches. Sound and video is badly synced on my clips (very common problem, the D90 files are not the easiest to handle). Some of the video just turns black. Don't know how.
Apart from that it starts playing the preview when hitting SPACE, instead of the timeline like it should (also preview with jkl). Needs some keyboard shortcuts, and arrow-tool should probably automatically become resize (or trim would be better name) tool when near the edges.
But already quite usable for very simple movies. The sound editing leaves something to be desired still, but I know it is early.
As far as our professional video editor project (Lumiera) is going, it's still missing more developers as it's a huge task writing efficient and extensible code, than in the end should be able to compete with Premiere, Final Cut, Vegas et al.
Velmont
August 26, 2009 5:49 AM
Found the bug.
Cut a clip in two places. The clip in the middle turns black. Actually, it has only muted the image itself, just unmute it.
Kinda strange, but should be easy to fix(?).
August 26, 2009 9:45 AM
The dependencies all appear to be in the Ubuntu repositories. Unless you need something in a version newer than those provided, it would be much easier to just depend on them.
I'd like to help you with the DEB packages, and also put them up in the PPA on LaunchPad, so they can be installed and updated though Apt. Requested to join in LP (mhall119).
August 26, 2009 9:49 AM
This is a great milestone! Thank you!
What is the situation regarding the next version of Ubuntu (9.10 Karmic Koala)? Will OpenShot be able to run with the versions available in the official 9.10 repositories or will it still require the bundled versions?
August 26, 2009 11:07 AM
@Michael,
The dependencies are all in Ubuntu, but they are not current enough for everything to work. I wish I didn't have to make all of those dependency DEB files, but it was the only way I could find to allow people to install the developer preview of OpenShot.
Yes, I see your membership request, and we would love to have your help. TJ is currently working on the packaging, but I'm sure he would be open to your help.
@Atmos,
We are looking into the repository situation for 9.10 right now. It looks like we might have missed our opportunity for 9.10 though. I will say this, we are working with TJ (our newest member) to get all of this stuff into a PPA, and things are moving along nicely. So... even if we don't get into the official Ubuntu repository for 9.10, we will certainly have a PPA for everyone to use. =)
August 26, 2009 2:51 PM
Have you checked if your dependencies are satisfied in ubuntu karmic??
As i have them listed, the versions available are:
frei0r-*:1.1.22git20090409+repack-0ubuntu1
ffmpeg:4:0.5+svn20090706-2ubuntu1
libmlt1:0.4.4-2
1:0.svn20090621+git364d7d-0ubuntu2
Perhaps for karmic you dont need to provide all these other packages, and you could create a very simple ppa that holds only the openshot deb with the dependencies grabbed from the official repos.
August 26, 2009 2:52 PM
Small mistake on my prebious post..
the version that appears listed for x264 is 1:0.svn20090621+git364d7d-0ubuntu2
August 26, 2009 3:14 PM
Hello Orlox,
The dependncies in Karmic are older thatn the up-to-date snapshots we are using for OpenShot.
However TJ has done some backports of the dependencies for Jaunty (9.04). I have installed these and tested them on the latest snapshot of kdenlive - which still shows the bugs we are experiencing in OpenShot. When TJ has finished developing the new packaging for OpenShot, I will be testing OpenShot on TJ's backport libraries.
Both MLT and ffmpeg are undergoing a lot of work to iron out some of the problems, and hopefully there will be wonderful new versions of them well before Ubuntu 10.04 is frozen.
So the outlook is very good for both kdenlive and OpenShot in the next LTS release of Ubuntu 10.4
@Velmont Lumiera should be talking to us and kdenlive. The reason why kdenlive, OpenShot, MLT and ffmpeg are progressing so fast is that we are all co-operating and sharing knowledge and experience. Lumiera should join our co-operating community. :-)
Best wishes, Helen
August 26, 2009 5:19 PM
Congratulation! Good application!
1abraço
August 27, 2009 5:48 AM
Great job! Continue with the good work! It's exactly what is missing in Linux.
August 27, 2009 7:02 AM
Thanx. It's really cool and rather fast!
August 27, 2009 11:03 AM
Hi.
Are you planning port OpenShot to Qt4 for KDE?
In the future it would be great to have a repository on launchpad for OpenShot.
Bye.
August 27, 2009 11:15 AM
Hello revo
OpenShot is targeted on Gnome, but will work on KDE as well.
The PPA is bieng condtraucted at the moment so shortly you will have a repository to add to Synaptic.
Helen
August 27, 2009 5:40 PM
Perfect! Simple and functional!
Tnks!!
August 27, 2009 7:16 PM
I just used Openshot to send a close friend a quick happy birthday. She was impressed. It is just incredible the way it is now. Now I am on the edge of my seat for the next big update to the only REAL linux video editor.
August 27, 2009 7:26 PM
I have notice that Linux codecs can't decode WVP2 (Windows Media Video 9 Image v2).
For example, the .wmv file shows the following site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/photostory/default.mspx
Can you add support for these codec in any way?
Yes I know, closed source and Micro$, but...
Thanks!
August 28, 2009 3:56 AM
Hello,
I know you have already written a blogspot about why there hasn't been a good movie editor for Linux yet, but still, I don't think I've found the answer why did you choose to make "yet another" movie editor while there are a lot of others - the _exact_ reason.
You mentioned that there is not enough contributors because the code of the other projects is complex, thus prone to be buggy and hard to be recept by volunteers. Well, I don't know anything about writing a code for a video editor (then again, neither did you when you started the project), but I suppose it _has_ to be complex when it comes to advanced features; and I hesitate to believe that the code (or at least the concept) wasn't thought out when planning. Having all these video editors before yours appeared, it seems quite unlikely to me that none of their authors took the similar approach like you did. More likely, I fear there are now similar projects which are deemed to repeat the same mistakes someone has already solved or is currently stuck at and suffer from lack of manpower.
So, my final question is: What movie editors did you use and of which did you read the code, why didn't you like the code/way the project was led and whether you asked why the authors did the thing _that_ way?
August 28, 2009 4:02 AM
Um, sorry, couldn't look up my blogger password and accidentaly used anonymous option :-(. That upper post was mine.
August 28, 2009 4:13 AM
Hello Vin,
Jonathan will no doubt give his reasons and answers.
I will tell you why I joined this project.
Every video editor I have looked at, with the exception of Final Cut, has been designed with the emphasis on"adding technology".
Final Cut and OpenShot provide easy pathways to creative art in producing movies. The scope for artistic creativity is to my mind far greater in these two editors than in any others I have tried. There is less emphasis on amazing and often inappropriate effects, and easier access to an enormous degree of freedom in compositing.
Helen
August 28, 2009 4:22 AM
Vin, I think he was entitled to want the challenge of writing his own software from scratch, rather than join in with other projects.
I've looked at other NLE solutions and they all have a variety of weaknesses that left me unwilling to learn more about them or try them out. If JT thought he could do better from the ground up, good luck to him. So far he's proved that he's up to the task.
Sometimes a dedicated lone programmer with enhusiasm and committment can produce software that beats the pants off loosely organised team efforts based upon unsuitable frameworks :)
You know the saying that a camel is a horse designed by a committee? The same thing goes for software, I find. One man with a clear vision often gets better results.
August 29, 2009 1:38 AM
Thank you for an application that is sorely needed. Looking forward to its development.
Is their a Launchpad PPA for this?
Thanks.
August 29, 2009 1:55 AM
I have to post another comment here.
I use OSX for my iPod Touch and iMovie. OpenShot could be the answer to iMovie, and that leaves the iPod Touch, which a jailbreaked version should fix.
Any chance of approaching Canonical for some funding, donation, manpower (sorry, I'm old fashioned), free hosting on Lauchpad for PPA's etc ?
Thanks again for amazing work. Despite what some people say, this is needed. Well done and we all appreciate it.
August 29, 2009 5:04 AM
What is OSX ? Me i don't know it. Could you be more precise, please.
@Helen
We have forgotten the ipod & cie formats and codecs on wikipedia. No ?
Best whises Cenwen/Olivier
August 29, 2009 5:34 AM
Coucou Olivier :-)
OSX is the Unix operating system for Apple Macs and iMacs etc.
No we haven't forgotten the Apple formats.
Look at the table on our Wikepedia page and you will see I have started on the Apple QuickTime formats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenShot_Video_Editor#Video_Formats_.26_Codecs_Supported
Best wishes, Helen
August 29, 2009 12:31 PM
Hi Jonathan and Helen,
First of all, let me say that OpenShot seems to be very promising and I appreciate your hard work.
However, one thing is still not allowing me to test the latest versions of the code, and that would be the unfriendly method of installation. The debs were a nice step in the right direction, but are not quite there yet.
The main problem is that they still involve installation of newer versions of shared libraries in /usr/local. While this does not overwrite the library files, /usr/local has priority over /usr, which means that applications such as Kdenlive might use them and crash due to an API incompatibility.
I recommend you to start using autotools and allow the user to specify an alternative library directory. What I would expect is something like this:
for compiling:
1) I checkout the latest source code from bazaar.
2) I run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local to install OpenShot in /usr/local
3) ./configure warns me that my version of, say, ffmpeg is too old.
4) I don't want conflicts, so I compile the latest ffmpeg, install it in, for example, /usr/optional and run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --include-dir=/usr/optional/include
5) I create a shortcut for OpenShot prefixing it with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/optional/lib
As an alternative to 4) and 5), I might compile ffmpeg statically into OpenShot.
for binary releases:
The packages should either contain a statically compiled version of OpenShot including all libraries whose necessary versions are not in the repositories or place shared versions in a place that would not conflict with anything (e.g. not /usr/local)
I have a lot of faith in OpenShot and hope it will suceed. Keep up the good work.
Donny
August 29, 2009 12:34 PM
Just to emphasize:
autotools give a distro-independent method of installation that most Linux users are familiar with. That's why I really encourage you to use it.
August 29, 2009 6:44 PM
Thank u hacı
linux da çalışan bu güne kadar denediğim en iyi video editor proje sürekli olur ve ses getirir inşallah
August 29, 2009 7:38 PM
@anonymous
>I try to run linux these days the best
>video editor project is ongoing and
>hopefully bring sound
Merhaba Anonim,
Bu yüzden bu yazmak için Google Translate kullanılan ben türk don't speak. Sana OpenShot kullanmaktan zevk alırsınız. Eğer bir zorlukla dili ne yazıyorsanız ve sonra kimse ne yaptım ve bir çeviri aracını yapabilirsiniz söylüyorlar.
Şans, Helen İyi
in English:
Hello Anonymous,
I do not speak Turkish so I used Google Translate to write this. I hope you enjoy using OpenShot. If you have any difficulties say what language you are writing in, and then someone can do what I did and use a translation tool.
Good luck, Helen