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Start the timer! I'm going to type real fast so I fit this into 60 seconds. =) Over the past 30 days we have made a ton of progress on OpenShot Video Editor! Even though I haven't had time to post a ton of blog updates, we have been busy fixing bugs, adding features, answering questions, and generally having fun!
So, here is a quick rundown of what's been happening:
- Lots of bug fixes
- Lots of bug and question management (Thanks to Helen!)
- Good progress on documentation (Thanks Helen!)
- Complete re-structuring of folders to ease packaging (Thanks to TJ!)
- Integration of distutils (i.e. the preferred way of installing a Python program) (Thanks to TJ!)
- Good progress on implementing the "Simple" Video Export interface (Thanks to Andy!)
- Good progress on implementing Effects
- Good progress towards having OpenShot in a PPA, which will be great! (Thanks to TJ!)
- We now have 29 translations, which is just awesome! The more languages, the more users can enjoy OpenShot! (Thanks to all the translators!) Here is a sample:
(credit: Jihui Choi)
Please continue to talk about OpenShot. It's really helping us raise awareness and spread the word about our project. As soon as we have a PPA ready for testing, I'll post an update. Thanks!
Beep, beep, beep... Just under 60 seconds.
September 9, 2009 3:23 AM
OpenShot is doing well, that's a great news! Thanks for the blog update.
September 9, 2009 4:28 AM
Thank you for the informative update. It is interesting to follow the development, especially when the project is as active and focused as this one. :-)
September 9, 2009 5:06 AM
May the force be with you guys! :)
September 9, 2009 5:13 AM
Well done everyone, good to see how well it's going.
At the moment I'm stuck in Windows (due to inertia mainly) and I've been having some luck editing AVCHD Lite (720p) in a freebie called VideoPad, but it's a bit limited and I'm looking forward to a full Ubuntu install one day soon and a good play with OpenShot. Keep up the good work!
September 10, 2009 6:48 AM
Hmm.. The report of OpenShot video project's death seems greatly exaggerated. ;-)
I second "Impressed" above, well done everyone! Even small participation counts. There are many ways to participate (testing, filing bug reports, documenting, translations, blogging about Openshot, making other people aware that Openshot exists). Keep up the good work!
September 10, 2009 6:59 AM
hi
I have a question for the developer ...
You are a great developer, very good level and it's seems you have time to work ...
Why do you start a new project from zero based on ffmpeg and mlt as you knew that kdenlive is a working nle also based on ffmpeg and mlt ?
You are working since 6 months or more and for this time you add nothing on nle for linux ...because today openshot is behind kdenlive in term of fonctionnality, test, packaging .....The mlt boss work in kdenlive dev so it's an advantage ...
Open source work with community ..why you don't join kdenlive ? I imagine your work with kdenlive for 6 months ..
or for another project ?
In resume i don't understand your goal to try to re-invent the whell ..i don't want to imagine that it is just for popularity ...
Thanks
September 10, 2009 9:56 AM
WTF?
Why so many trolls lately? Windows users or programmers? Kdenlive fanboys?
You ignore to those who say the project is dead, or those who question the beginning of a new project rather than join another. The problem with Linux is the lack of variety of applications, it's great that new projects are initiated. Kdenlive is an advanced project and I think that OpenShot developers can not contribute much. The stability of kdenlive sucks (in my opinion) and OpenShot developers should ignore those who request constant additions of new functions daily. Stability is everything before new functions. It is better to go slow and maintain stability.
Keep doing this excellent work.
Bye.
September 10, 2009 10:00 AM
@Anonymous,
I have the full support of the MLT "boss" to create OpenShot. There is really quite a simple answer to this question.
1) Kdenlive is based on the QT library, and is designed for KDE. OpenShot is based on GTK, and designed for Gnome.
2) I wanted OpenShot to be the most stable video editor available. It's not based on a complex C or C++ code base. It's based on Python.
Contrary to popular belief, competition is good. More than 1 video editor can be developed. I am proud to be using MLT, and I am trying to raise awareness of this library for other projects.
September 10, 2009 11:22 AM
"yafu: The problem with Linux is the lack of variety of applications,it's great that new projects are initiated."
yes is 10 developpers try to do the same soft nothing come mature .. you can see diva, pitivi, ...
An nle is a big piece of software and the open source community has not enough resource to do that ... there is a plenty resource for create windows manager(gnome, kde...) but not for nle because we are in 2009 and there is no more than one or 2 nle and they are not in "final" relase ..
J"Kdenlive is based on the QT library, and is designed for KDE. OpenShot is based on GTK, and designed for Gnome."
it's not a real reason, because a QT application work nicely in gnome ...
"I wanted OpenShot to be the most stable video editor available."
kdenlive is stable enough to be use ...the instability is like the monster of the lockness even it was true with older version ...
"competition is good. More than 1 video editor can be developed."
sure but as i said there is no professional nle on linux ... there is a lot of dead nle as i said and a lot of developper waste a lot of time ...
my post is not a troll i hope, but i'm thinking that you will re invent the whell and in 2 or 3 years we will have kdenlive and open shot mature all based on ffmpeg/mlt ... can you imagine is this devs has develop one nle ?
September 10, 2009 1:17 PM
"it's not a real reason, because a QT application work nicely in gnome ..."
Yes, it's a good reason. Kdenlive is not simply a "Qt application". It's a KDE application and uses kdelibs.
September 10, 2009 1:18 PM
Jonathan,
Thought you might be interested in this:
http://lifehacker.com/5355900/five-features-we-want-to-see-in-ubuntu?skyline=true&s=x
September 10, 2009 2:18 PM
Anon complainer, leave JT alone! He's perfectly entitled to start his own project in a language and dev environment of his own choice.
The fact that you're wishing that he would have joined in with Kdenlive speaks volumes about the state of that project! :)
September 11, 2009 2:17 AM
""it's not a real reason, because a QT application work nicely in gnome ..."
Yes, it's a good reason. Kdenlive is not simply a "Qt application". It's a KDE application and uses kdelibs."
what is the problem of loading kdelibs ? if you make real video editing you have the hardware to support kdelibs ...
"Anon complainer, leave JT alone! He's perfectly entitled to start his own project in a language and dev environment of his own choice."
Jt make that it want sure ... my question is just about motivation to re-invent the wheel ... the question is that if it stop in 6 months (new job, new girlfriend, new baby ??) all the people lost all this time ... because it's a small project ..
For exemple think about jashaka .. a perfect fonctionnality software dead !! why a good developper as jt doesn't start a clone of jashaka ? this really help open source and was good for popularity ...
"The fact that you're wishing that he would have joined in with Kdenlive speaks volumes about the state of that project! :)"
As i said there is no "finish" nle on linux ...but starting to zero is not the fastiest solution ..
September 11, 2009 4:03 AM
As i said there is no "finished" nle on linux ...but starting to zero is not the fastest solution .. -
- actually it is faster sometimes to start from scratch properly with a good design, than to overload and extend a design that wasn't so great to start with.
And here's that link (which shows just how far OpenShot has come already - disproving the "not the fastest" comment) -
In Linux, there are a range of options, almost none of them with a finished feel, and all of them front-loaded with codec, dependency, and interface headaches galore. OpenShot seems like a step in the right direction.
September 11, 2009 4:07 AM
JT, could you sum up your likely longterm commitment to the project? It's hard without a crystal ball, I know, but could you imagine priorities changing so much that OpenShot would fall behind?
I like to think that even if there's a chance of that, the project will be so advanced and popular before that happens, that others will step in to take it forwards (if it needs to).
September 11, 2009 4:57 AM
"And here's that link (which shows just how far OpenShot has come already - disproving the "not the fastest" comment) -
In Linux, there are a range of options, almost none of them with a finished feel, and all of them front-loaded with codec, dependency, and interface headaches galore. OpenShot seems like a step in the right direction."
"And here's that link" ... so if you read anything on the internet you think it's a true like it was written by your god ?????
"- actually it is faster sometimes to start from scratch properly with a good design,"
it's a strange opinion ? what is the problem ? Qt is not good enough ?
you think it's impossible to develop good think with qt ?
September 11, 2009 8:50 AM
I don't think it's doing any favours to have an argument here, but I'd like to calmly counter those two points.
"if you read anything on the internet you think it's true"
It shows others think the same way.
As for Qt/Kdenlive I'm sorry I didn't want to upset anyone, but the fact remains that JT must be doing something right to have come so far so quickly. A nice clean interface and such progress indicates a gifted and talented developer and the project shows great promise. That's all. Can we agree to differ if we must?
September 11, 2009 8:58 AM
Anonymous people, please you choose any nickname (Name/URL) when you post a message to make this more understandable. Thank you.
September 11, 2009 10:13 AM
I think the thing that really distinguishes OpenShot and should remain the main objective if it is to succeed is to target a mainstream audience.
OpenShot is not targeted at professional special effects directors, and not at the technology freaks, but at "HUMAN BEINGS" which encompasses the vast majority of computer users, girls and moms included.
I hope and pray that OpenShot will continue to focus on stability, intuitive usability and good default out-of-the-box settings, and resist the temptation to add just another feature in the default GUI and another and another until it is to advanced it scares away not only mom but dad too.
Everyday Jane and Joe just want to mix their holiday tapes a few times a year and be done with it.
Once again thank you for the terrific job you are doing!
September 11, 2009 10:34 AM
I agree Atmos, yet there's a lot to be said for Standard / Advanced modes selected from the main menu. In Standard mode it's basic enough not to scare anyone new, in advanced mode you get all the groovy extras. I hope that can be built in from the start... JT...? :)
September 11, 2009 10:47 AM
One more thing: Visual appearance.
OpenShot looks good! Clean and simple good. It is not cluttered, it is not boring, it looks modern, it looks friendly, and most of all it meets the expectations of the target audience for what an application should look like in 2009.
The visuals are details, but for some users they are important details. In my experience "human beings" (once again women included) are much more open to try out a new application if it looks appealing than if it looks old or cluttered or unfinished.
All too often the design aspects are left out as unimportant and is supposed to be retrofitted at some later stage.
With OpenShot the design is already there!
Excellent!
:-D
September 11, 2009 12:16 PM
I have run most of the video editors including kdenlive. kdenlive is good but its stability leaves much to be desired. I have not experienced the type of crashes in open shot. May this project live long.
September 11, 2009 6:43 PM
Yeah, those crashes in kdenlive seem to happen when you move your clips to the timeline. WTF!?!? At least with Openshot, your clips ACTUALLY make it to the time line, then the fun really begins!! :)
September 11, 2009 6:57 PM
OpenShot grows fast and I consider it the only good, reliable and user friendly video editor for Linux.
I really appreciate this project because it shows how can be powerful the will to improve something with passion.
Thank you very much for your efforts!
This is the application that I was waiting and I look forward for new features.
Greetings from Italy.
September 12, 2009 1:17 AM
"atmos:
which encompasses the vast majority of computer users, girls and moms included"
atmos, girl as the same inteliigence than you ... stop to distinguish men and women ...
September 12, 2009 5:27 PM
Thanks for Openshot! Finally it is the first video editor that I use whit good satisfaction in Ubuntu.
Great!
mauro
September 14, 2009 10:04 AM
@Anonymous say:"...the question is that if it stop in 6 months (new job, new girlfriend, new baby ??) all the people lost all this time ... because it's a small project..."
I agree only in this point with Anonymous. It is always better in a big Open Source project to have a good team of developers, rather than one or a few people.
You do not know that kind of mishap may you have in the future, and all their efforts came to nothing.
I see you wrote about kdenlive, cinelerra or lumiera projects in comparison with your project. They are orientated for professional use I think. Does your project is for an NLE easy to use, or for professional use? I think both are incompatible, unless there are two versions.
Bye.